TL;DR: Man with too much time on his hands goes deep down the rabbit hole on a concept this sub already didn’t seem that enthusiastic about. If you really want to skip ahead, CTRL+F “verdict” and it’ll get you there. Two days ago,
u/MrPhillyj2wns made a post
asking whether USL should launch a D1 league in order to compete in Concacaf. From the top voted replies, it appears this made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.
But I’ve been at home for eight weeks and I am terribly, terribly bored.
So, I present to you this overview of what the USL pyramid might look like if Jake Edwards got a head of steam and attempted to establish a USSF-sanctioned first division.
This is by no means an endorsement of such a proposal or even a suggestion that USL SHOULD do such a thing. It is merely an examination of whether they COULD. Welcome to the
Thunderdome USL Premiership
First, there are some base-level assumptions we must make in this exercise, because it makes me feel more scientific and not like a guy who wrote this on Sunday while watching the Belarusian Premier League (Go BATE Borisov!).
- All D1 teams must comply with known USSF requirements for D1 leagues (more on that later).
- MLS, not liking this move, will immediately remove all directly-owned affiliate clubs from the USL structure (this does not include hybrid ownerships, like San Antonio FC – NYCFC). This removes all MLS2 teams but will not affect Colorado Springs, Reno, RGVFC and San Antonio.
- The USL will attempt to maintain both the USL Championship and USL League One, with an eventual mind toward creating the pro/rel paradise that is promised in Relegations 3:16.
- All of my research regarding facility size and ownership net worth is correct – this is probably the biggest leap of faith we have to make, since googling “NAME net worth” and “CITY richest people” doesn’t seem guaranteed to return accurate results.
- The most a club can increase its available seating capacity to meet D1 requirements in a current stadium is no more than 1,500 seats (10% of the required 15,000). If they need to add more, they’ll need a new facility.
- Let’s pretend that people are VERY willing to sell. It’s commonly acknowledged that the USL is a more financially feasible route to owning a soccer club than in MLS (c.f. MLS-Charlotte’s reported $325 million expansion fee) and the USSF has some very strict requirements for D1 sanctioning. It becomes pretty apparent when googling a lot of team’s owners that this requirement isn’t met, so let’s assume everyone that can’t sells to people who meet the requirements.
(Known) USSF D1 league requirements: - League must have 12 teams to apply and 14 teams by year three
- Majority owner must have a net worth of $40 million, and the ownership group must have a total net worth of $70 million. The value of an owned stadium is not considered when calculating this value.
- Must have teams located in the Eastern, Central and Pacific time zones
- 75% of league’s teams must be based in markets with at a metro population of at least 1 million people.
- All league stadiums must have a capacity of at least 15,000
The ideal club candidate for the USL Premiership will meet the population and capacity requirements in its current ground, which will have a grass playing surface. Of the USL Championship’s 27 independent/hybrid affiliate clubs, I did not find one club that meets all these criteria as they currently stand.
Regarding turf fields, the USSF does not have a formal policy regarding the ideal playing surface but it is generally acknowledged that grass is superior to turf. 6 of 26 MLS stadiums utilize turf, or roughly 23% of stadiums. We’ll hold a similar restriction for our top flight, so 2-3 of our top flight clubs can have turf fields. Seem fair?
Capacity is going to be the biggest issue, since the disparity between current requirements for the second-tier (5,000) and the first tier (15,000) is a pretty massive gap. Nice club you have there, triple your capacity and you’re onto something. As a result, I have taken the liberty of relocating certain (read: nearly all) clubs to new grounds, trying my utmost to keep those clubs in their current markets and –importantly--, ensure they play on grass surfaces.
So, let’s do a case-by-case evaluation and see if we can put together 12-14 teams that meet the potential requirements, because what else do you have to do?
For each club’s breakdown, anything that represents a chance from what is currently true will be underlined.
Candidate: Birmingham Legion FC Location (Metro population): Birmingham, Ala. (1,151,801)
Time zone: Central
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Legion Field (FieldTurf, 71,594)
Potential owner: Stephens Family (reported net worth $4 billion)
Notes: Birmingham has a pretty strong candidacy. Having ditched the 5,000-seater BBVA Field for Legion Field, which sits 2.4 miles away, they’ve tapped into the city’s soccer history. Legion Field hosted portions of both the men’s and women’s tournaments at the 1996 Olympics, including a 3-1 U.S. loss to Argentina that saw 83,183 pack the house. The Harbert family seemed like strong ownership contenders, but since the death of matriarch Marguerite Harbert in 2015, it’s unclear where the wealth in the family is concentrated, so the Stephens seem like a better candidate. The only real knock that I can think of is that we really want to avoid having clubs play on turf, so I’d say they’re on the bubble of our platonic ideal USL Prem.
Candidate: Charleston Battery Location (Metro population): Charleston, S.C. (713,000)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Johnson Hagood Stadium (Grass, ~14,700)
Potential owner: Anita Zucker (reported net worth $3 billion)
Notes: Charleston’s candidacy isn’t looking great. Already disadvantaged due to its undersized metro population, a move across the Cooper River to Johnson Hagood Stadium is cutting it close in terms of capacity. The stadium, home to The Citadel’s football team, used to seat 21,000, before 9,300 seats on the eastern grandstand were torn down in 2017 to deal with lead paint that had been used in their construction. Renovation plans include adding 3,000 seats back in, which could hit 15,000 if they bumped it to 3,300, but throw in a required sale by HCFC, LLC (led by content-creation platform founder Rob Salvatore) to chemical magnate Anita Zucker, and you’ll see there’s a lot of ifs and ands in this proposal.
Candidate: Charlotte Independence Location (Metro population): Charlotte, N.C. (2,569, 213)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Jerry Richardson Stadium (Turf, 15,314)
Potential owner: James Goodnight (reported net worth $9.1 billion)
Notes: Charlotte ticks a lot of the boxes. A move from the Sportsplex at Matthews to UNC-Charlotte’s Jerry Richardson stadium meets capacity requirements, but puts them on to the dreaded turf. Regrettably, nearby American Legion Memorial Stadium only seats 10,500, despite a grass playing surface. With a sizeable metro population (sixth-largest in the USL Championship) and a possible owner in software billionaire James Goodnight, you’ve got some options here. The biggest problem likely lies in direct competition for market share against a much better-funded MLS Charlotte side due to join the league in 2021.
Candidate: Hartford Athletic Location (Metro population): Hartford, Conn. (1,214,295)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Pratt & Whitney Stadium (Grass, 38,066)
Potential owner: Ray Dalio (reported net worth $18.4 billion)
Notes: Okay, I cheated a bit here, having to relocate Hartford to Pratt & Whitney Stadium, which is technically in East Hartford, Conn. I don’t know enough about the area to know if there’s some kind of massive beef between the two cities, but the club has history there, having played seven games in 2019 while Dillon Stadium underwent renovations. If the group of local businessmen that currently own the club manage to attract Dalio to the table, we’re on to something.
Candidate: Indy Eleven Location (Metro population): Indianapolis, Ind. (2,048,703)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Lucas Oil Stadium (Turf, 62,421)
Potential owner: Jim Irsay (reported net worth of $3 billion)
Notes: Indy Eleven are a club that are SO CLOSE to being an ideal candidate – if it weren’t for Lucas Oil Stadium’s turf playing surface. Still, there’s a lot to like in this bid. I’m not going to lie, I have no idea what current owner and founder Ersal Ozdemir is worth,
but it seems like there might be cause for concern. A sale to Irsay, who also owns the NFL Indianapolis (nee Baltimore) Colts, seems likely to keep the franchise there, rather than make a half-mile move to 14,230 capacity Victory Field where the AAA Indianapolis Indians play and expand from there.
Candidate: Louisville City FC Location (Metro population): Louisville, Ky. (1,297,310)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Lynn Family Stadium (Grass, 14,000, possibly expandable to 20,000)
Potential owner: Wayne Hughes (reported net worth $2.8 billion)
Notes: I’m stretching things a bit here. Lynn Family stadium is currently listed as having 11,700 capacity that’s expandable to 14,000, but they’ve said that the ground could hold as many as 20,000 with additional construction, which might be enough to grant them a temporary waiver from USSF. If the stadium is a no-go, then there’s always Cardinal Stadium, home to the University of Louisville’s football team, which seats 65,000 but is turf. Either way, it seems like a sale to someone like Public Storage founder Wayne Hughes will be necessary to ensure the club has enough capital.
Candidate: Memphis 901 FC Location (Metro population): Memphis, Tenn. (1,348,260)
Time zone: Central
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Liberty Bowl Stadium (Turf, 58,325)
Potential owner: Fred Smith (reported net worth $3 billion)
Notes: Unfortunately for Memphis, AutoZone Park’s 10,000 seats won’t cut it at the D1 level. With its urban location, it would likely prove tough to renovate, as well. Liberty Bowl Stadium more than meets the need, but will involve the use of the dreaded turf. As far as an owner goes, FedEx founder Fred Smith seems like a good local option.
Candidate: Miami FC, “The” Location (Metro population): Miami, Fla. (6,158,824)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Riccardo Silva Stadium (FieldTurf, 20,000)
Potential owner: Riccardo Silva (reported net worth $1 billion)
Notes: Well, well, well, Silva might get his wish for top-flight soccer, after all. He’s got the money, he’s got the metro, and his ground has the capacity. There is the nagging issue of the turf, though. Hard Rock Stadium might present a solution, including a capacity of 64,767 and a grass playing surface. It is worth noting, however, that this is the first profile where I didn’t have to find a new potential owner for a club.
Candidate: North Carolina FC Location (Metro population): Durham, N.C. (1,214,516 in The Triangle)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Carter-Finley Stadium (Grass/Turf, 57,583)
Potential owner: Steve Malik (precise net worth unknown) / Dennis Gillings (reported net worth of $1.7 billion)
Notes: We have our first “relocation” in North Carolina FC, who were forced to trade Cary’s 10,000-seat WakeMed Soccer Park for Carter-Finley Stadium in Durham, home of the NC State Wolfpack and 57,583 of their closest friends. The move is a whopping 3.1 miles, thanks to the close-knit hub that exists between Cary, Durham and Raleigh. Carter-Finley might be my favorite of the stadium moves in this exercise. The field is grass, but the sidelines are artificial turf. Weird, right? Either way, it was good enough for Juventus to play a friendly against Chivas de Guadalajara there in 2011. Maybe the move would be pushed for by new owner and medical magnate Dennis Gillings, whose British roots might inspire him to get involved in the Beautiful Game. Straight up, though, I couldn’t find a net worth for current owner Steve Malik, though he did sell his company MedFusion for $91 million in 2010, then bought it back for an undisclosed amount and sold it again for $43 million last November. I don’t know if Malik has the juice to meet D1 requirements, but I suspect he’s close.
Candidate: Pittsburgh Riverhounds SC Location (Metro population): Pittsburgh, Penn. (2,362,453)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Heinz Field (Grass, 64,450)
Potential owner: Henry Hillman (reported net worth $2.5 billion)
Notes: I don’t know a ton about the Riverhounds, but this move in particular feels like depriving a pretty blue-collar club from its roots. Highmark Stadium is a no-go from a seating perspective, but the Steelers’ home stadium at Heinz Field would more than meet the requirements and have a grass surface that was large enough to be sanctioned for a FIFA friendly between the U.S. WNT and Costa Rica in 2015. As for an owner, Tuffy Shallenberger (first ballot owner name HOF) doesn’t seem to fit the USSF bill, but legendary Pittsburgh industrialist Henry Hillman might. I’m sure you’re asking, why not the Rooney Family, if they’ll play at Heinz Field? I’ll tell you: I honestly can’t seem to pin down a value for the family. The Steelers are valued at a little over a billion and rumors persist that Dan Rooney is worth $500 million, but I’m not sure. I guess the Rooneys would work too, but it’s a definite departure from an owner in Shallenberger who was described by one journalist as a guy who “wears boots, jeans, a sweater and a trucker hat.”
Candidate: Saint Louis FC Location (Metro population): St. Louis, Mo. (2,807,338)
Time zone: Central
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Busch Stadium (Grass, 45,494)
Potential owner: William DeWitt Jr. (reported net worth $4 billion)
Notes: Saint Louis has some weirdness in making the jump to D1. Current CEO Jim Kavanaugh is an owner of the MLS side that will begin play in 2022. The club’s current ground at West Community Stadium isn’t big enough, but perhaps a timely sale to Cardinals owner William DeWitt Jr. could see the club playing games at Busch Stadium, which has a well established history of hosting other sports like hockey, college football and soccer (most recently a U.S. WNT friendly against New Zealand in 2019). The competition with another MLS franchise wouldn’t be ideal, like Charlotte, but with a big enough population and cross marketing from the Cardinals, maybe there’s a winner here.
Wacko idea: If Busch doesn’t pan out, send them to The Dome. Sure, it’s a 60k turf closed-in stadium, but we can go for that retro NASL feel and pay homage to our nation’s soccer history.
Candidate: Tampa Bay Rowdies Location (Metro population): Tampa, Fla. (3,068,511)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Raymond James Stadium (Grass, 65,518)
Potential owner: Edward DeBartolo Jr. (reported net worth $3 billion)
Notes: This one makes me sad. Despite having never been there, I see Al Lang Stadium as an iconic part of the Rowdies experience. Current owner Bill Edwards proposed an expansion to 18,000 seats in 2016, but the move seems to have stalled out. Frustrated with the city’s lack of action, Edwards sells to one-time San Francisco 49ers owner Edward DeBartolo Jr., who uses his old NFL connections to secure a cushy lease at the home of the Buccaneers in Ray Jay, the site of a 3-1 thrashing of Antigua and Barbuda during the United States’ 2014 World Cup Qualifying campaign.
Breather. Hey, we finished the Eastern Conference teams. Why are you still reading this? Why am I still writing it? Time is a meaningless construct in 2020 my friends, we are adrift in the void, fueled only by brief flashes of what once was and what may yet still be. Candidate: Austin Bold FC Location (Metro population): Austin, Texas (2,168,316)
Time zone: Central
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Darrel K Royal – Texas Memorial Stadium (FieldTurf, 95,594)
Potential owner: Michael Dell (reported net worth of $32.3 billion)
Notes: Anthony Precourt’s Austin FC has some unexpected competition and it comes in the form of tech magnate Michael Dell. Dell, were he to buy the club, would be one of the richest owners on our list and could flash his cash in the new first division. Would he have enough to convince Darrel K Royal – Texas Memorial Stadium (I’m not kidding, that’s its actual name) to go back to a grass surface, like it did from ’96-’08? That’s between Dell and nearly 100,000 UT football fans, but everything can be had for the right price.
Candidate: Colorado Springs Switchbacks FC Location (Metro population): Colorado Springs, Colo. (738,939)
Time zone: Mountain
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Falcon Stadium (FieldTurf, 46,692)
Potential owner: Charles Ergen (reported net worth $10.8 billion)
Notes: Welcome to Colorado Springs. We have hurdles. For the first time in 12 candidates, we’re back below the desired 1 million metro population mark. Colorado Springs actually plans to build a $35 million, 8,000 seat venue downtown that will be perfect for soccer, but in our timeline that’s 7,000 seats short. Enter Falcon Stadium, home of the Air Force Academy Falcons football team. Seems perfect except for the turf, right? Well, the tricky thing is that Falcon Stadium is technically on an active military base and is (I believe) government property. Challenges to getting in and out of the ground aside, the military tends to have a pretty grim view of government property being used by for-profit enterprises. Maybe Charles Ergen, founder and chairman of Dish Network, would be able to grease the right wheels, but you can go ahead and throw this into the “doubtful” category. It’s a shame, too. 6,035 feet of elevation is one hell of a home-field advantage.
Candidate: El Paso Locomotive FC Location: El Paso, Texas
Time zone: Mountain
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Sun Bowl (FieldTurf, 51,500)
Potential owner: Paul Foster (reported net worth $1.7 billion)
Notes: God bless Texas. When compiling this list, I found so many of the theoretical stadium replacements were nearly serviceable by high school football fields. That’s insane, right? Anyway, Locomotive don’t have to settle for one of those, they’ve got the Sun Bowl, which had its capacity reduced in 2001 to a paltry 51,500 (from 52,000) specifically to accommodate soccer. Sure, it’s a turf surface, but what does new owner Paul Foster (who is only the 1,477th wealthiest man in the world, per Forbes) care, he’s got a team in a top league.
Side note: Did you know that the Sun Bowl college football game is officially, through sponsorship, the Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl? Why is it not the Frosted Flakes Sun Bowl? Why is the cereal mascot the promotional name of the football game? What are you doing, Kellogg’s?
Candidate: Las Vegas Lights FC Location: Las Vegas, Nev. (2,227,053)
Time zone: Pacific
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Allegiant Stadium (Grass, 61,000)
Potential owner: Sheldon Adelson (reported net worth $37.7 billion)
Notes: Sin City. You had to know that the club that once signed Freddy Adu because “why not” was going to go all out in our flashy hypothetical proposal. Thanks to my narrative control of this whole thing, they have. Adelson is the second-richest owner in the league and has decided to do everything first class. That includes using the new Raiders stadium in nearby unincorporated Paradise, Nevada, and spending boatloads on high profile transfers. Zlatan is coming back to the U.S., confirmed.
Candidate: New Mexico United Location: Albuquerque, N.M.
Time zone: Mountain
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Isotopes Park – officially Rio Grande Credit Union Field at Isotopes Park (Grass, 13,500 – 15,000 with expansion)
Potential owner: Maloof Family (reported net worth $1 billion)
Notes: New Mexico from its inception went deep on the community vibe, and I’ve tried to replicate that in this bid. The home field of Rio Grande Cr---I’m not typing out the whole thing—Isotopes Park falls just within the expansion rules we set to make it to 15,000 (weird, right?) and they’ve found a great local ownership group in the Lebanese-American Maloof (formerly Maalouf) family from Las Vegas. The only thing to worry about would be the metro population, but overall, this could be one of the gems of USL Prem.
Candidate: Oklahoma City Energy FC Location: Oklahoma City, Okla. (1,396,445)
Time zone: Central
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Chickasaw Bricktown Ballpark (Grass, 13,066)
Potential owner: Harold Hamm (reported net worth $14.2 billion)
Notes: There’s a bright golden haze on the meadow and it says it’s time to change stadiums and owners to make it to D1. A sale to oil magnate Harold Hamm would give the club the finances it needs, but Chickasaw Bricktown Ballpark (home of the OKC Dodgers) actually falls outside of the boundary of what would meet capacity if 1,500 seats were added. Could the club pull off a move to Gaylord Family Oklahoma Memorial Stadium in Norman, Oklahoma – home of the Oklahoma Sooners? Maybe, but at 20 miles, this would be a reach.
Candidate: Orange County SC Location: Irvine, Calif. (3,176, 000 in Orange County)
Time zone: Pacific
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Angels Stadium of Anaheim (Grass, 43,250)
Potential owner: Arte Moreno (reported net worth $3.3 billion)
Notes: You’ll never convince me that Rangers didn’t choose to partner with Orange County based primarily on its name. Either way, a sale to MLB Angels owner Arte Moreno produces a fruitful partnership, with the owner choosing to play his newest club out of the existing Angels stadium in OC. Another baseball conversion, sure, but with a metro population of over 3 million and the closest thing this hypothetical league has to an LA market, who’s complaining?
Candidate: Phoenix Rising FC Location: Phoenix, Ariz. (4,857,962)
Time zone: Arizona
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): State Farm Stadium (Grass, 63,400)
Potential owner: Ernest Garcia II (reported net worth $5.7 billion)
Notes: We’re keeping it local with new owner and used car guru Ernest Garcia II. His dad owned a liquor store and he dropped out of college, which is making me feel amazing about my life choices right now. Casino Arizona Field is great, but State Farm Stadium is a grass surface that hosted the 2019 Gold Cup semifinal, so it’s a clear winner. Throw in Phoenix’s massive metro population and this one looks like a lock.
Candidate: Reno 1868 FC Location: Reno, Nev. (425,417)
Time zone: Pacific
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Mackay Stadium (FieldTurf, 30,000)
Potential owner: Nancy Walton Laurie (reported net worth $7.1 billion)
Notes: The Biggest Little City on Earth has some serious barriers to overcome, thanks to its low metro population. A sale to Walmart heiress Nancy Walton Laurie and 1.6 mile-move to Mackay Stadium to split space with the University of Nevada, Reno makes this bid competitive, but the turf surface is another knock against it.
Candidate: Rio Grande Valley FC Location: Edinburg, Texas (900,304)
Time zone: Central
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): McAllen Memorial Stadium (FieldTurf, 13,500 – 15,000 with expansion)
Potential owner: Alice Louise Walton (reported net worth $45 billion)
Notes: Yes, I have a second straight Walmart heiress on the list. She was the first thing that popped up when I googled “McAllen Texas richest people.” The family rivalry has spurred Walton to buy a club as well, moving them 10 miles to McAllen Memorial Stadium which, as I alluded to earlier, is a straight up high school football stadium with a full color scoreboard. Toss in an additional 1,500 seats and you’ve met the minimum, despite the turf playing surface.
Candidate: San Antonio FC Location: San Antonio, Texas (2,550,960)
Time zone: Central
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Alamodome (FieldTurf, 64,000)
Potential owner: Red McCombs (reported net worth $1.6 billion)
Notes: I wanted to keep SAFC in the Spurs family, since the franchise is valued at $1.8 billion. That said, I didn’t let the Rooneys own the Riverhounds based on the Steelers’ value and it felt wrong to change the rules, so bring on Clear Channel co-founder Red McCombs. Toyota Field isn’t viable in the first division, but for the Alamodome, which was built in 1993 in hopes of attracting an NFL franchise (and never did), San Antonio can finally claim having *a* national football league team in its town (contingent on your definition of football). Now if only we could do something about that turf…
Candidate: San Diego Loyal SC Location: San Diego, Calif. (3,317,749)
Time zone: Pacific
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): SDCCU Stadium (formerly Qualcomm) (Grass, 70,561)
Potential owner: Phil Mickelson (reported net worth $91 million)
Notes: Yes, golf’s Phil Mickelson. The existing ownership group didn’t seem to have the wherewithal to meet requirements, and Phil seemed to slot right in. As an athlete himself, he might be interesting in the new challenges of a top flight soccer team. Toss in a move to the former home of the chargers and you might have a basis for tremendous community support.
Candidate: FC Tulsa Location: Tulsa, Okla. (991,561)
Time zone: Central
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Skelly Field at H.A. Chapman Stadium (FieldTurf, 30,000)
Potential owner: George Kaiser ($10 billion)
Notes: I’m a fan of FC Tulsa’s rebrand, but if they want to make the first division, more changes are necessary. A sale to Tulsa native and one of the 100 richest men in the world George Kaiser means that funding is guaranteed. A move to Chapman Stadium would provide the necessary seats, despite the turf field. While the undersize population might be an issue at first glance, it’s hard to imagine U.S. Soccer not granting a waiver over a less than a 10k miss from the mark.
And that’s it! You made it. Those are all of the independent/hybrid affiliates in the USL Championship, which means that it’s time for our…
VERDICT: As an expert who has studied this issue for almost an entire day now, I am prepared to pronounce which USL Championships could be most ‘ready” for a jump to the USL Prem. A reminder that of the 27 clubs surveyed, 0 of them met our ideal criteria (proper ownership $, metro population, 15,000+ stadium with grass field).
Two of them, however, met almost all of those criteria: Indy Eleven and Miami FC. Those two clubs may use up two of our three available turf fields right from the outset, but the other factors they hit (particularly Silva’s ownership of Miami) makes them difficult, if not impossible to ignore for the top flight.
But who fill in the rest of the slots? Meet the entire 14-team USL Premier League:
Hartford Athletic Indy Eleven Louisville City FC Miami FC North Carolina FC Pittsburgh Riverhounds SC Tampa Bay Rowdies Saint Louis FC San Antonio FC New Mexico United Phoenix Rising FC Las Vegas Lights FC Orange County SC San Diego Loyal SC Now, I shall provide my expert rationale for each club’s inclusion/exclusion, which can be roughly broken down into four categories.
Firm “yes” Hartford Athletic: It’s a good market size with a solid stadium. With a decent investor and good community support, you’ve got potential here.
Indy Eleven: The turf at Lucas Oil Stadium is no reason to turn down a 62,421 venue and a metro population of over 2 million.
Louisville City FC: Why doesn’t the 2017 & 2018 USL Cup champion deserve a crack at the top flight? They have the market size, and with a bit of expansion have the stadium at their own SSS. LCFC, you’re in.
Miami FC, “The”: Our other blue-chip recruit on the basis of ownership value, market size and stadium capacity. Yes, that field is turf, but how could you snub Silva’s chance to claim victory as the first division 1 club soccer team to play in Miami?
Pittsburgh Riverhounds SC: Pittsburgh sacrificed a lot to be here (according to my arbitrary calculations). Their market size and the potential boon of soccer at Heinz Field is an important inclusion to the league.
Saint Louis FC: Willie hears your “Busch League” jokes, Willie don’t care. A huge market size, combined with the absence of an NFL franchise creates opportunity. Competition with the MLS side, sure, but St. Louis has serious soccer history and we’re willing to bet it can support two clubs.
Tampa Bay Rowdies: With a huge population and a massive stadium waiting nearby, Tampa Bay seems like too good of an opportunity to pass up for the USL Prem.
Las Vegas Lights FC: Ostentatious, massive and well-financed, Las Vegas Lights FC is everything that the USL Premier League would need to assert that it didn’t intend to play second fiddle to MLS. Players will need to be kept on a short leash, but this is a hard market to pass up on.
Phoenix Rising FC: Huge population, big grass field available nearby and a solid history of success in recent years. No brainer.
San Diego Loyal SC: New club? Yes, massive population in a market that recently lost an absolutely huge sports presence? Also yes. This could be the USL Prem’s Seattle.
Cautious “yes” New Mexico United: You have to take a chance on New Mexico United. The club set the league on fire with its social media presence and its weight in the community when it entered the league last season. The market may be slightly under USSF’s desired 1 million, but fervent support (and the ability to continue to use Isotopes Park) shouldn’t be discounted.
North Carolina FC: Carter-Finley’s mixed grass/turf surface is a barrier, to be sure, but the 57,000+ seats it offers (and being enough to offset other fully-turf offerings) is enough to put it in the black.
Orange County SC: It’s a top-tier club playing in a MLB stadium. I know it seems
unlikely that USSF would approve something like that, but believe me when I say
“it could happen.” Orange County is a massive market and California likely needs two clubs in the top flight.
San Antonio FC: Our third and only voluntary inclusion to the turf fields in the first division, we’re counting on San Antonio’s size and massive potential stadium to see it through.
Cautious “no” Birmingham Legion FC: The town has solid soccer history and a huge potential venue, but the turf playing surface puts it on the outside looking in.
Memphis 901 FC: Like Birmingham, not much to dislike here outside of the turf playing surface at the larger playing venue.
Austin Bold FC: See the other two above.
FC Tulsa: Everything’s just a little bit off with this one. Market’s slightly too small, stadium has turf. Just not enough to put it over the top.
Firm “no” Charleston Battery: Small metro and a small potential new stadium? It’s tough to say yes to the risk.
Charlotte Independence: A small new stadium and the possibility of having to compete with an organization that just paid over $300 million to join MLS means it’s best for this club to remain in the USL Championship.
Colorado Springs Switchbacks FC: When a club’s best chance to meet a capacity requirement is to host games at a venue controlled by the military, that doesn’t speak well to a club’s chances.
El Paso Locomotive FC: An undersized market and a turf field that meets capacity requirements is the death knell for this one.
Oklahoma City Energy FC: Having to expand a baseball field to meet requirements is a bad start. Having to potentially play 20 miles away from your main market is even worse.
Reno 1868 FC: Population nearly a half-million short of the federation’s requirements AND a turf field at the hypothetical new stadium makes impossible to say yes to this bid.
Rio Grande Valley FC: All the seat expansions in the world can’t hide the fact that McAllen Memorial Stadium is a high school stadium through and through.
Here’s who’s left in the 11-team Championship:
Birmingham Legion FC Charleston Battery Charlotte Independence Memphis 901 FC Austin Bold FC Colorado Springs Switchbacks FC El Paso Locomotive FC Oklahoma City Energy FC Reno 1868 FC Rio Grande Valley FC FC Tulsa With MLS folding the six affiliates it has in USL League One, the league is a little bit thin (especially considering USSF’s requirements for 8 teams for lower level leagues), but seems definitely able to expand up to the necessary numbers with Edwards’ allusions to five new additions this year:
Chattanooga Red Wolves SC Forward Madison FC Greenville Triumph SC Union Omaha Richmond Kickers South Georgia Tormenta FC Tucson Format of Assorted Leagues – This (like everything in this post) is pure conjecture on my part, but here are my thoughts on how these leagues might function in a first year while waiting for additional expansion.
USL Premier – We’ll steal from the 12-team Scottish Premiership. Each club plays the other 11 clubs 3 times, with either one or two home matches against each side. When each club has played 33 matches, the top six and bottom six separate, with every club playing an additional five matches (against each other team in its group). The top club wins the league. The bottom club is automatically relegated. The second-bottom club will enter a two-legged playoff against someone (see below) from the championship playoffs.
USL Championship -- 11 clubs is a challenge to schedule for. How about every club plays everyone else three times (either one or two home matches against each side)? Top four clubs make the playoffs, which are decided by two-legged playoffs. The winner automatically goes up. I need feedback on the second part – is it better to have the runner-up from the playoffs face the second-bottom club from the Premiership, or should the winner of the third-place match-up get the chance to face them to keep drama going in both playoff series? As for relegation, we can clearly only send down the last place club while the third division is so small.
USL League One – While the league is so small, it doesn’t seem reasonable to have the clubs play as many matches as the higher divisions. Each club could play the other six clubs four times – twice at home and twice away – for a very equitable 24-match regular season, which would help restrict costs and still provide a chance to determine a clear winner. Whoever finishes top of the table goes up.
And there you have it, a hypothetical look at how the USL could build a D1 league right now. All it would take is a new stadium for almost the entire league and new owners for all but one of the 27 clubs, who wouldn’t feel that their property would be massively devalued if they got relegated.
Well that’s our show. I’m curious to see what you think of all of this, especially anything that you think I may have overlooked (I’m sure there’s plenty). Anyway, I hope you’re all staying safe and well.
submitted by The coolest trophy in all of college football is the three way trophy. The Commander-in-Chief's Trophy between Army/Navy/Air Force and the Michigan MAC Trophy between Easter Michigan, Central Michigan and Western Michigan are the only ones currently active, but we need more. What's more is that we could even have four way trophies that would be a ton of fun.
The Florida Cup(Miami/Florida/Florida State) and the Beehive Boot(BYU/Utah State/Utah) are semi-active, but they should happen almost every year.
Potential ones that would be easy and wouldn't require realignment:
Cascadia Cup - Technically the name of an MLS Trophy, but we will steal it because it fits so well, Washington, Washington State, Oregon and Oregon State. Makes too much sense.
California Cup - Stanford, USC, Cal and UCLA already play each other every year, even in different divisions. Simple.
Ohio MAC Trophy - Akron, Kent State, Ohio, Bowling Green and Miami are all in the MAC East. Toledo being in the MAC West. Swap Toledo and Buffalo, and the MAC East is essentially a six team trophy already, but that's sort of cheating. Without changing anything, Ohio, Akron and Kent State can have and Eastern Ohio MAC Trophy, and Toledo can play Bowling Green/Miami every year to create a Western MAC Ohio Trophy.
Something that divisional realignment would easily solve:
ACC Carolina Cup - Wake Forest, North Carolina, Duke, NC State. Duke/NC State and UNC/Wake Forest don't play each other every year, but because of the 8 game schedule, they all need to be in one division. Trade WF/NC State with Georgia Tech/Miami. Simple.
After this, it's pretty hard, but I thought of a few ideas that some creative and dedicated AD's could make happen:
Indiana Infighting - Notre Dame, Purdue, Ball State, Indiana.
Ohio River Trophy - Louisville, Cincinnati, Miami (OH), and Marshall.
Appalachia Cup - Tennessee, West Virginia, Appalachian State and Virginia Tech.
Coal Country Clash - West Virginia, Pitt, Penn State.
Rocky Mountain State Rumble - Colorado, Utah, New Mexico and Wyoming.
South Florida Showdown - Miami, FAU, FIU, USF.
New England Cup(Lobster Roll Championship) - UMass/UConn/Boston College.
Mississippi Delta Madness - ULM, Memphis, Arkansas State, and Ole Miss.
Texas Is Not Quite Back Grand Prix - Cal, Kansas, Maryland.
Lone Star Holy War(Televangelist's Threeway) - TCU/BayloSMU.
Bay Area Rent Control - Cal, Stanford, San Jose State.
Oil Refinery Open - Texas A&M, Houston, Rice.
Red Dirt is Better Than Nashville Country - Tulsa, North Texas, Texas State.
Alabama Afterthoughts Altercation - UAB, South Alabama, Troy.
Battle for the Walter White Corridor - UTEP, New Mexico State, New Mexico.
Cocaine Cup - SMU, Miami, Arizona.
Amtrak Delay Derby - Boston College, Rutgers, Temple.
The I-10 Waffle House Tour - LSU, Louisiana-Lafayette(I guess just Louisiana now?), South Alabama and Florida State.
Rocky Mountain State Rumble 2.0 - Colorado State, Utah State, and New Mexico State.
Rocky Mountain State Rumble Version Family Values - BYU.
Battle for Myrtle Beach(Kenny Powers Cup) - Georgia Southern, Coastal Carolina, East Carolina.
Branson With Your Grandparents Lottery - Tulsa, Arkansas, Arkansas State, and Missouri.
Bottle Service Bonanza - San Diego State, Arizona State, and UNLV.
Hill Country Hullabaloo - Texas State, Texas, UTSA.
Shootyhoops Showdown - Kansas, Kentucky, North Carolina, Indiana.
New Yorker Invitational - Miami, Arizona State, East Carolina, Coastal Carolina.
Californian Invitational - Nevada, Washington State, Boise State.
Bachelorette Party Brawl - UNLV, Vanderbilt, Miami.
Commander-in-Chief’s Trophy, Twitter Edition - Army, Navy, Air Force, Space Force.
Big 12 Reject-a-palooza - UCF, Houston, BYU.
Our God is an Awesome God Grand Prix - Baylor, BYU, Notre Dame.
Casino Money - Oklahoma, Louisiana Tech, Tulane.
I know I didn't get all 130 teams in, but it was hard. Any other suggestions welcome.
submitted by Preparing for a baby early next year and the wife is making me sell a lot of my personal collection to make some space.
Long-time lurkecollector (as shaznay4508), first-time poster. Find my 100% positive feedback and other items for sale on Discogs as shaznay4508 and on eBay as musicsaves4508. Happy to get verified if that is possible. Items are all in-hand and ready to ship from North Carolina within 24 hours of payment.
Everything is factory sealed and in Mint/Near Mint condition unless stated otherwise; most are Limited Edition or Exclusive releases, and most will include download codes. I'm a bit manic about my records, so everything has been stored carefully in a smoke-free home. I want my records to make it to a good home in the same condition they left my home; so you can rest assured I will do my best to package all items securely and carefully. Some will be priced to sell and some may be priced higher, probably because I have a personal connection and would really prefer to keep it part of the hoard.
I am tired of eBay and Discogs fees and have been wanting to try posting here for once to see if I have traction or just get shamed. The stuff listed is only a small selection of my actual collection, so let me know if you have any questions/offers/trades (I have one copy of Endless, not for sale, but I would trade it for Black Friday Blonde). Keep in mind I have been subscribed to Vinyl Me Please and Third Man Vault for quite some time; if you know of any releases on your want list, make me an offer I can't refuse. If this goes well I can post more.
Shipping is $5 up to 5 discs (up to, every 5 LPs adds $5 more) (Media Mail to the US only; message me for international options). Prefer Paypal, but can accept Venmo, Cash App, and ChaseQuick Pay.
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Angel Olsen - My Woman (Purple) - 2LP - $45
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Aphex Twin - Syro (Gatefold, Black) - 3LP - $25
Better Oblivion Community Center – Better Oblivion Community Center (Orange LP) - $40
Car Seat Headrest - Teens of Denial (Black) - 2LP - $20
Clams Casino - 32 Levels (White) - $40
Cody Jinks – Lifers (VMP, Yellow/Red Splatter) - $70
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Father John Misty - Pure Comedy (Loser, Colored) - 2LP $35
Father John Misty - Fear Fun (Red) - LP - $40
Florist - Emily Alone (Black/White Split) - $50
Flume - Skin (Purple Swirl) - 2LP - $95
Frightened Rabbit - Midnight Organ Fight (180g, Black LP, 10th Ann. Ed.) - $50
Future Islands - The Far Field (180g, White LP) - $25
Jim James - Eternally Even (Gold LP) - $25
Jungle - For Ever (Gold) - 2LP - $35
Kanye West/Jay Z - Watch the Throne (Official Picture Disc)- 2LP (VG+) - $95
Khruangbin – Live At Lincoln Hall (Purple LP) - $80
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Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti Remastered Deluxe Edition (180g, Black) - 3LP - $50
Led Zeppelin – The Complete BBC Sessions (Black LP) - $120
Leon Bridges - Coming Home (Red LP) - $100
Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory (Black LP) - $25
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Migos - Culture (Gold LP) - $25
Mountain Goats - Goths - 3LP (2 Red, 1 Green) - $25
Nina Simone - At Town Hall (Pink) - $25
Pink Floyd - The Wall (180g, Black) - 2LP - $40
Radiohead - In Rainbows (Black) - $20
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Sleigh Bells - Treats (180g, Black, Issued unsealed in a poly outer bag) - LP - $20
Sylvan Esso - Sylvan Esso (Coke Bottle Clear LP) - $75
Tame Impala - Currents - (Violet/Amber) (US Edition) - 2LP - $100
The Avalanches – Wildflower (Red) - 2LP - $55
The Band - Music From Big Pink (Pink) 2LP - $65
The Beatles - Abbey Road (Black) - LP - $30
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Matt Morton - Apollo 11 (Soundtrack) (Black, Signed by both Morton and Director Todd Douglas Miller) - $30
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Black Eyed Peas - The Complete Vinyl Collection (12LP) - $160
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Gorillaz - The Now Now Deluxe Box Set(180g, Blue) - LP - $75
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Red Hot Chili Peppers - Stadium Arcadium - 4LP - $35
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Songs: Ohia - Love & Work The Lioness Sessions Box Set (Purple) - 2LP - $60
Sufjan Stevens - Songs For Christmas (Black) - 5LP - $55
The Beatles Stereo Box Set(180g, Box Set + Book) - 16LP - $500
The War On Drugs – A Deeper Understanding (Coke Bottle Clear 2LP, Black 12", Clear 7", + CD) - $80
Thundercat - Drunk 4x10 inch (Red) - $35
submitted by So I combed through the list looking at tour schedules for everybody and marking down when they were playing in the greater Bay Area and what their other tour dates were around OSL. All of that is listed below, but doesn't include musical artists that were suggested by other users but were not playing any of the other tracked festivals.
While the official prediction game is over, feel free to make further predictions in this thread, armed with the tour knowledge listed.
Possibilities:
Headliners:
Adele (no upcoming dates, rumored that she'll never tour again)
Billy Joel (no dates between August 8th in Denver and August 26th in Baltimore)
Bjork (no dates after May 6th-June 1st multimedia show residency in NY)
Bruce Springsteen (no upcoming dates and stated on Twitter that there would be no 2019 tour)
Cher (no dates between May 30th in Vancouver and August 21st in Vegas that is part of her Vegas residency)
Childish Gambino (no dates after June 14th in Tennessee)
Coldplay (no upcoming dates)
Daft Punk (no upcoming dates)
Depeche Mode (no dates after March 29th in Spain)
Diana Ross (no dates after July 22nd in Colorado, has Vegas residency in June)
Drake (no dates after April 26th in the Netherlands, no U.S. dates)
Eagles (no dates after July 8th in Ireland, no U.S. dates)
Eminem (no upcoming dates)
Eric Clapton (no dates after June 10th in Germany, no U.S. dates)
Foo Fighters (no dates between June 29th in Sweden and August 13th in Hungary)
Frank Ocean (no upcoming dates)
Green Day (no upcoming dates)
Guns N Roses (no upcoming dates)
Gwen Stefani (only Vegas residency dates with break between July 26th and October 11th)
Jay-Z (no dates other than Woodstock 50 weekend after OSL)
Kanye West (no upcoming dates)
Kendrick Lamar (no dates after April 7th in Chile, no U.S. dates)
Kids See Ghosts (no upcoming dates, but tour rumored)
Lady Gaga (only Vegas residency dates with break between June 15th and October 17th)
Madonna (no upcoming dates)
Maroon 5 (no dates between June 11th in France and August 31st in Curacao, no U.S. dates)
Miley Cyrus (no dates between June 30th in UK and August 16th at Woodstock 50)
Missy Elliott (no dates after July 5th in New Orleans)
Nicki Minaj (no dates after June 21st in L.A.)
Pearl Jam (no dates between July 6th in UK and September 28th in Dana Point, CA)
Phish (no dates between July 14th in Wisconsin and August 30th in Colorado)
Red Hot Chili Peppers (no dates before August 16th in Japan)
Robert Plant (no dates after July 2nd in Norway, no U.S dates)
Rod Stewart (no dates between July 13th in UK and Vegas residency beginning September 18th)
Roger Waters (no upcoming shows)
Sting (no dates between August 1st in France and August 23rd in Illinois)
The Strokes (no dates between July 21st in France and September 27th in Dana Point, CA)
Tool (no dates after July 2nd in Portugal)
Travis Scott (no dates after July 13th in Switzerland)
Twenty One Pilots (no dates between July 21st in France and August 13th in Hungary)
U2 (no upcoming shows and Bono said cryptic message at last 2018 show that they were "going away now")
7 Tracked Festivals:
King Princess (plays Fillmore April 22, no dates listed past July 28th in Detroit)
4 Tracked Festivals:
Chelsea Cutler (plays Fillmore March 22, no dates listed past April 3rd)
Clairo (plays Pitchfork in Chicago July 21st then Reading UK festival August 23rd)
Denzel Curry (plays Bill Graham Civic opening for Billie Eilish on May 29th, plays Seattle on July 19th then August 16th in Netherlands)
Easy Life (no dates after August 3rd in UK)
Playboi Carti (no dates after June 1st in NY)
Sheck Wes (playing in Montreal on August 9th or 10th)
3 Tracked Festivals
070 Shake (no dates after June 2nd in Spain)
The Band Camino (plays July 14th in Kentucky then September 7th in Tennessee)
Bazzi (no dates after June 2nd in NY)
Bob Moses (plays July 13th in Portugal then August 17th in Utah)
Brockhampton (plays July 14th in Netherlands then August 17th in Japan)
Caamp (no dates after August 2nd in Portland)
Dennis Lloyd (plays Great American Music Hall on April 11th, no dates after June 30th in Switzerland)
Gucci Mane (no dates after June 23rd in Delaware)
Hippo Campus (no dates after August 2nd in Iowa)
Hop Along (plays The Independent on April 18-19, no dates after July 12 in Kentucky)
Hozier (no dates after April 14th in Spokane)
Kacey Musgraves (plays August 2nd in Iowa then August 24th in Paso Robles, CA)
Ravyn Lenae (no dates after June 2nd in NY)
Shame (plays The New Parish in Oakland on April 23rd, no dates after July 14th in Finland)
Taylor Bennett (no dates after June 2nd in NY)
Two Feet (no dates after June 23rd in Delaware)
Unknown Mortal Orchestra (plays the Greek Theatre on April 19th, no dates past July 26th in Japan)
Walk the Moon (no dates past June 23rd in Delaware)
2 Tracked Festivals:
Alison Wonderland (plays July 21st in Paris then August 15th in Austria)
Blood Orange (no dates after June 3rd in Maryland)
Calpurnia (no dates after July 14th in Kentucky
Castlecomer (no dates after June 21st in Delaware)
Cautious Clay (no dates after June 15th in Norway)
Crooked Colours (no dates after July 21st in Washington)
Diplo (plays August 1st in Minnesota then August 23rd in Netherlands)
Ella Mai (plays The Fox in Oakland on April 23rd, no dates after May 22nd in Tennessee)
Evan Giia (no dates after July 19th in Washington)
Flora Cash (plays August Hall in SF on May 22nd as opening act, no dates after June 21st in Michigan)
Flipp Dinero (no dates after June 21st in Delaware)
Gesaffelstein (no dates after June 2nd in NY)
Gorgon City (plays the Regency Ballroom on April 17th, no dates after July 27th in UK)
Gunna (plays the Fillmore on April 7th as opening act, no dates after July 15th in Croatia
The Interrupters (plays the Regency Ballroom on March 14th, no dates after June 30th in Spain)
J.I.D. (no shows after July 28th in Michigan)
Jpegmafia (plays the Warfield on March 28th as opening act, no dates after July 21st in Chicago)
Judah and the Lion (plays July 26th in Germany, August 10th in Missouri, and August 13th in Colorado)
Khalid (plays July 6th in Canada then September 7th in Germany)
Kid Cudi (no dates after May 10th in Miami)
Kygo (no dates after July 9th in Canada)
Lauren Daigle (plays July 31st in Michigan then August 10th in Portland and August 11th in Vancouver)
Let's Eat Grandma (plays the Chapel on April 18th, plays August 8th in Italy then August 29th in UK)
Lil Mosey (no dates after May 24th in Vegas)
Lil Wayne (no dates after June 21st in Los Angeles)
The Lumineers (play July 29th in Denmark then September 21st in New Jersey)
Mansionair (no dates after June 27th in MIchigan)
Medasin (play July 19 in Washington then September 12th in Colorado)
Mura Masa (play June 9th in UK then August 22nd in UK)
Nghtmre (no dates after July 21st in Germany)
Nora en Pure (no dates after July 14th in Germany)
The Nude Party (play the Great American Music Hall on April 25th, no dates after May 10th in UK)
The Record Company (play the Ace of Spades in Sacramento on June 5th, play July 14th in Massachusetts then August 17th in Montana)
Ric Wilson (no dates after July 21st in Chicago)
Ripe (play July 14th in Massachusetts then September 21st in New Jersey)
Rubblebucket (play the Cornerstone in Berkeley on March 28th, no dates after June 22nd in Delaware)
Sales (no dates after April 27 at August Hall in SF)
Shaed (play March 15th at Rickshaw Stop in SF, no dates after June 29th in Denver)
Snakehips (no dates after July 14th in NY)
Soccer Mommy (plays the Great American Music Hall on April 17th and 18th and Bill Graham Civic as opener on October 1st, play July 21st in Chicago then September 25th in Canada)
Still Woozy (play the Catalyst in Santa Cruz, no dates after July 21st in Washington)
Sunflower Bean (play July 26-28 in UK then August 11th in Toronto)
Tank and the Bangas (no dates after June 22nd in Delaware)
Tobi Lou (no dates after June 2nd in NY)
Tyla Yaweh (no dates after June 14th in Tennessee)
Tyler the Creator (no dates after June 21st in Delaware)
U.S. Girls (no dates after July 14th in Canada)
Wallows (play the Fillmore on April 26th and 27th, no dates after July 28th in Detroit)
Yellow Days (play July 27th in Michigan then August 14-17 in Portugal)
Zhu (play Shambhala Music Fest in British Columbia same weekend as OSL)
1 Tracked Festival:
10K.Caash (no dates after May 12 in Florida)
12th Planet (play March 16th at Regency Ballroom, no dates after March 30th in Arizona)
21 Savage (no dates after May 4th in Kansas)
3lau (play March 15th at Pure Nightclub in Sunnyvale, no dates after June 23rd in Delaware)
4B (play March 30th at Bill Graham Civic as opener, no dates after July 21st in Germany)
88Glam (no dates after April 21st at Coachella)
A Boogie Wit Da Hoodie (play April 4th at The Fillmore, no dates after April 11th in Massachusetts)
Aaron Aye (no dates after May 31st in NY)
Adia Victoria (no dates between May 26th in Massachusetts and September 21st in Tennessee)
Agoria (play Dreambeach Festival in Spain August 7th to 11th, but unclear what day he may be playing on)
All Them Witches (no dates after June 22nd in Switzerland)
Amber Mark (no dates after July 19th in Chicago)
Ame (no dates after July 21st in Spain)
Andrew McMahon (play March 21st at Fox in Oakland, no dates after June 22 in Delaware)
Anna Lunoe (no shows after July 19th in Indonesia)
Anoushka Shankar (no shows after June 14th in Tennessee)
Aphex Twin (no shows between April 21st at Coachella and August 25th in Paris)
Arkells (play March 27th at Cornerstone in Berkeley, no dates after July 27th in UK)
The Artisanals (no dates after July 14th in Kentucky)
Asian Doll (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
Awolnation (no dates after June 23rd in Delaware)
BabyG (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Baby Goth (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
Bakar (no dates after May 4th in UK)
Bassnectar (no dates after July 20th in Pennsylvania)
Bblasian (no dates after July 13th in Kentucky)
Beach Fossils (no dates after May 3rd in Arizona)
Beach House (playing Bellwether Festival in Ohio on August 9th or 10th)
Beau Young Prince (play March 22nd at The Warfield as opener, no dates after March 23rd in Hollywood)
Bebe Rexha (no dates after May 19th in Alabama)
Bendigo Fletcher (no dates after July 14th in Kentucky)
Big Baby Scumbag (no dates after May 10th in Miami)
Big Red Machine (no dates after June 2nd in Spain)
Big Wild (no dates after July 21st in Washington)
Blaatina (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
Blac Youngsta (no dates after May 24th in Maryland)
BlackPink (no dates between May 28th in Spain and August 16th in Japan)
Blond:ish (no dates after July 7th in Belgium)
Bloodpop (no dates after June 23rd in Delaware)
Blueface (play March 19th at Warfield as Opener and June 28th at Ace of Spades in Sacramento, no dates after that)
Boa (no dates after April 20th in Indiana)
Bombino (play March 27th at the Independent, no dates after June 23rd at San Luis Obispo)
Bones (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Boy Pablo (no dates between July 10th in Norway and August 12th in France)
Brianna Perry (no dates after May 10th in Miami)
Bruno Mali (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
Bryce Vine (no dates after 19th in Alabama)
Buddy (play March 23rd at Harlow's in Sacramento, no dates after July 13th in UK)
Bumpin Uglies (play April 27th at Bottom of the Hill in SF, play Freakstomp Festival in Ohio same weekend as OSL, but not sure which day)
Burna Boy (play April 17th at Slim's, no dates after August 4th in Portugal)
Calypso Rose (no dates after July 13th in Slovakia)
CamelPhat (no dates between July 5th in Croatia and August 22nd in UK)
Car Seat Headrest (no dates between July 3rd in Nebraska and August 11th in L.A. as opener)
Carly Johnson (no dates after July 14th in Kentucky)
Caroline Rose (no dates between August 9th in Ohio and August 15th in Colorado)
Catfish and the Bottlemen (play March 23rd at Fox in Oakland, no dates between August 3rd in Ireland and August 12th in Hungary)
Charli XCX (no dates between July 21st in Chicago and August 22nd in UK)
Charlotte Gainsbourg (play April 15th at The Regency, no dates after July 26th in France)
Cherry Glazerr (no dates after July 14th in Tennessee)
Chief Keef (no dates after May 8th in North Carolina)
Chief Pound (no dates after May 10th in Miami)
Chon (no dates after May 4th in Georgia)
Chris Lake (no dates after May 17th in North Carolina)
CID (no dates after August 3rd in Calgary, Canada)
Cirez D (no dates after April 21st at Coachella)
City Girls (play March 19th at the Warfield as opener, no dates after July 14th in NY)
City Morgue (no dates after May 10th in Miami)
CloZee (no dates between August 3rd in Colorado and August 13th in Italy)
Coca Vango (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
Coi Leray (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
Cola Boyy (play April 18th at Rickshaw Stop in SF between Coachella weekends, no dates after June 27th in Michigan)
Comethazine (no dates between May 11th in Miami and August 23rd in UK)
Craig Brown Band (no dates after July 28th in Michigan)
CVBZ (no dates after June 27th in Michigan)
D Savage (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
DaniLeigh (no dates after July 14th in NY)
Danny Towers (no dates after May 10th in Miami)
Dashboard Confessional (no dates after June 23rd in Delaware)
Dave P (no dates after April 19th at Coachella)
Deafheaven (play March 16th at UC Theater in Berkeley, no dates between June 14th in Tennessee and August 17th in Vegas)
Deal Casino (play March 25th at Cornerstone in Berkeley, no dates after May 31st in NY)
Death Cab for Cutie (no dates between July 27th in Japan and August 11th in L.A.)
Deep Dish (no dates after May 25th in Greece)
Dessa (play May 24th at Bottlerock, no dates after June 1st in Vegas)
Deva Mahal (no dates between June 22nd in NY and August 25th in Virginia)
Dillon Francis (no dates after April 21st at Coachella)
DJ Mel (no dates after June 16th in Tennessee)
DMX (play April 21st at UC Theater in Berkeley, no dates after July 27th in Long Beach)
Dombresky (play March 22nd at 1015 Folsom in SF, no dates after June 16th in Tennessee)
Donna Missal (play March 26th at The Independent in SF, no dates after June 13th in Tennessee)
The Doozers (no dates after July 28th in Michigan)
Dorfex Bos (no dates after June 30th in Michigan)
Dr. Fresch (no dates after June 30th in Michigan)
Dragondeer (no dates after June 30th in Michigan)
Ducky (no dates after June 14th in Tennessee)
Dusky (play April 13th at The Great Northern in SF, no dates after June 25th in Albania)
dvsn (no dates after April 19th at Coachella)
Ekali (no dates between July 20th in Pennsylvania and September 12th in Colorado)
Elley Duhe (no dates after May 26th at Bottlerock)
Emily King (no dates after May 5th in NY)
Emo Nite (play March 30th at Rickshaw Stop in SF, no dates after July 26th in NY)
Eprom (no dates after July 18th in Montreal)
Eric Biddines (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
Erin Rae (no dates between July 14th in Kentucky and September 27th in SoCal)
Evan Giia (no dates after July 19th in Washington)
Faye Webster (play April 5th at Cafe du Nord in SF, no dates after June 16th in Tennessee)
Fendi P (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
First Aid Kit (no dates after July 14th in Kentucky)
FKJ (play April 10th-11th at The Warfield, no dates between July 12th in UK and August 16th in UK)
Freddie Gibbs (play May 5th at Brick & Mortar in SF, no dates after July 21st in Chicago)
The Frights (no dates after May 24th at the Catalyst in Santa Cruz)
G Herbo (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
The Garden (no dates after April 20th at Coachella)
GASHI ( no dates after July 9th in Canada)
Gat$ (no dates after May 12 in Miami)
Gojira (play July 26th at Shoreline as opener), no dates between August 8th in Nebraska and August 11th in Illinois)
Goldlink (no dates after May 10th in Miami)
Go$h (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
Goth Babe (no dates after July 28th in Michigan)
Gramatik (no dates between August 3rd in Washington and September 7th in Germany)
Grandson (play April 3rd at Slim's, no dates after May 19th in Alabama)
Great Good Fine OK (no dates after June 1st in Ohio)
Greta Van Fleet (no dates between July 13th in Spain and September 3rd in Australia)
Grizfolk (play March 21st at Fox in Oakland as opener, no dates after March 24th in San Diego)
Grlwood (no dates after July 12th in Kentucky)
Grownboitrap (no dates after May 10th in Miami)
Guapdad 4000 (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Gucci Gang (no dates after April 21st at Coachella)
Gus Dapperton (no dates after August 1st in Austria)
Guster (no dates after May 26th in Boston)
Guy Gerber (no dates after July 13th in UK)
Half Alive (no dates between June 21st in Delaware and September 13th in L.A.)
Heidi Lawden (no dates after August 3rd in UK)
Hekler (no dates after July 9th in Ontario)
H.E.R. (no dates after July 13th in UK)
Highly Suspect (no dates after July 12th in Kentucky)
The Him (no dates between May 19th in Alabama and August 17th in Austria)
Hippie Sabotage (no dates after June 19th in Colorado)
Hot Since 82 (no dates between May 27th in Michigan and August 17th in UK)
Hundredth (no dates after June 29th in Netherlands)
Hurray For the Riff Raff (no dates after April 27th in New Orleans)
HYUKOH (no dates after July 14th in UK)
Ibeyi (no dates after July 26th in France)
Ice Billion Berg (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Iceage (play April 23rd at the New Parish, no dates after May 7th in Chicago
Idris Elba (no dates after April 20th at Coachella)
Iglooghost (no dates after May 31st in Spain)
Ilovemakonnen (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Indigochildrick (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
Israel Nash (no dates between July 13th in Kentucky and August 24th in New Hampshire)
J Balvin (no dates between July 23rd in Spain and August 16th in Mexico)
Jade Bird (play June 8th at Greek Theater as opener, no dates between August 4th in Iowa and August 23rd in UK)
Jade Cicada (no dates after June 14th in Tennessee)
Jaden Smith (no dates after April 28th in Virginia)
Jambinai (no dates after June 8th in Portugal)
Jan Blomqvist (no dates after July 13th in Germany)
Javiera Mena (no dates after May 17th in Spain)
Jauz (no dates between August 5th in Toronto and August 10th in Vegas and August 11th in Phoenix)
Jaydayoungan (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Jeremy Zucker (no dates between June 1st in Cincinnati and August 22nd in UK)
Jesse Royal (no dates after May 26th in Monterey)
Jim James (no dates after July 7th in Quincy, CA)
Jonas Blue (no dates between July 21st in France and August 24th in UK)
Jony J (no dates after May 10th in Miami)
Joywave (no dates after June 22nd in Delaware)
Jukebox the Ghost (no dates after June 2nd in Ohio)
Justin Jay (no dates after May 19th in Alabama)
Kash Doll (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Kevin Gates (no dates after July 31st in Virginia)
The Kid Laroi (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Kid Quill (no dates after June 30th in Michigan)
Kid Trunks (no dates after May 31st in Belgium)
Killumantii (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Killy (no dates after July 11th in Netherlands)
Kilo Kish (play March 23rd at Regency Ballroom, no dates after May 26th in Boston)
King Henry (no dates after June 23rd in Delaware)
KirbLaGoop (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
The Knocks (no dates after June 29th in Denver)
Knower (no dates after June 27th in Michigan)
Kodak Black (play March 23rd at The Warfield, no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Kolsch (no dates between July 14th in Belgium and August 17th in Netherlands)
Lancey Foux (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
Las Cafeteras (no dates after August 3rd in L.A.)
Las Robertas (no dates after April 19th at Coachella)
Lauren Lane (no dates after April 19th at Coachella)
Lee Burridge (no dates after June 8th in Netherlands)
Leebrian (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Leikeli47 (play April 16th at the New Parish in Oakland, no dates after July 11th in Ottawa)
Lettuce (play March 21-24 at SF Jazz Center, play Telluride Jazz Fest in Colorado on August 9th, 10th ,or 11th)
Lightskinkeisha (no shows after May 11th in Miami)
Lil Baby (play March 18 at Fox in Oakland and March 19 at Warfield, no dates between July 14th in NY and August 22nd in UK)
Lil Berete (no dates after May 18th in Montreal)
Lil Dicky (no dates after June 16th in Tennessee)
Lil Duke (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Lil Durk (no dates after May 10th in Miami)
Lil Gotit (no dates after May 10th in Miami)
Lil Keed (play April 7th at Fillmore as opener, no dates after May 16th in Atlanta)
Lil Pump (play April 26th at Warfield, play August 9th or 10th in Montreal)
Lil Skies (play April 26th at Warfield, no dates after July 7th in UK)
Lil Tjay (no dates after May 10th in Miami)
Lil Uzi Vert (no dates between July 20th in Spain and August 22nd in UK)
Lil Yachty (no dates after July 6th in Vancouver)
Lily Allen (no dates after June 16th in UK)
Liquid Stranger (play March 15th at Slim's, no dates after June 13th in Tennessee)
Lolo Zouai (play May 14th at Rickshaw Stop in SF, no dates after July 14th in NY)
The Lonely Island (no dates after June 29th in Minnesota)
Los Tucanes de Tijuana (no dates after June 13th in Mexico)
Lostboycrow (no dates after June 23rd in Delaware)
Loud Luxury (no dates between August 2nd in Vegas and August 22nd in UK)
Lucius (play April 25th at Great American Music Hall and September 21st & 22nd at Greek as opener, no dates between August 4th in Oregon and Greek gigs)
Lykke Li (no dates after July 13th in UK)
Madeintyo (no dates after July 13 in Germany)
Magic City Hippies (play May 25th at Bottlerock, no dates after July 28th in Pennsylvania)
Magic Giant (no dates between June 23rd in Delaware and September 26th in Mendocino)
The Main Squeeze (no dates after August 3rd in Colorado)
Maliibu MItch (no dates after May 10th in Miami)
Manu Crooks (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Maren Morris (play March 26th at The Masonic, no dates between August 8th in Canada and August 16th in New Zealand)
The Marias (no dates after July 13th in Kentucky)
Matt Ox (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
MAX (no dates after June 22nd in Delaware)
Megan Thee Stallion (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
Melii (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
MEMBA (no dates after August 4th in Colorado)
Members Only (no dates after May 31st in Belgium)
Men I Trust (no dates after July 21st in Michigan)
Mersiv (no dates after July 18th in Pennsylvania)
The Messenger Birds (no dates after July 27th in Detroit)
The Messthetics (play April 22nd at The Chapel in SF, no dates after June 26th in Vancouver)
Migos (no dates after July 21st in France)
Miles Kane (no dates between July 28th in UK and August 30th in Ireland)
MKUltra (no dates after June 2nd in NY)
MO (no dates after July 21st in UK)
Mo Lowda and the Humble (play August 9th, 10th,and 17th in Colorado)
Monsieur Perine (no dates after June 14th in Tennessee)
Moon Boots (no dates after June 23rd in Albania)
Moon Taxi (no dates between July 20th in Maine and September 7th in Tennessee)
Morgxn (no dates after July 27th in Houston)
Mr Eazi (play April 21st at the Regency Ballroom, no dates between June 30th in the Netherlands and November 13th in UK)
Mt. Joy (play March 30th at the Fillmore, no dates between April 7th in San Diego and September 27th in Dana Point, CA)
Mulatto (no dates after May 10th in Miami)
Naeem (no dates after May 24th in Boston)
Nahko and Medicine for the People (play May 26th in Monterey, no dates between August 6th in Montana and August 25th in Virginia)
Naked Giants (play May 24th at The Catalyst in Santa Cruz, no dates after July 13th in the Netherlands)
NAS (no dates after July 14th in Virginia)
Nate Dae (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Nessly (no dates after May 24th in Georgia)
Nic Fanciulli (no dates after July 7th in Italy)
NIcole Moudaber (play April 6th at The Midway in SF, plays August 9th or 10th in Montreal)
Njomza (no dates after May 31st in NY)
Nocturnal Sunshine (no dates after April 21st at Coachella)
Nombe (no dates after June 23rd in Delaware)
Ocho Ojos (no dates after April 21st at Coachella and October 10th at Joshua Tree)
Ookay (play August 10th in Vegas, not playing anywhere August 9th or 11th)
The Orphan The Poet (no dates after June 23rd in Delaware)
Otown Marco (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Pardison Fontaine (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
Parquet Courts (no dates between July 21st in Chicago and August 29th in UK)
Party Pupils (play March 28th at 1015 Folsom in SF, no dates after July 6th in Hollywood)
Patrice Baumel (play August 9th, 10th, or 11th at We Can Dance festival in Belgium)
Peach Pit (no dates after July 21st in Washington)
Penny & Sparrow (play June 28th at the Fox Theater in Oakland as opener, no dates between July 14th in Kentucky and September 7th in Tennessee)
Perfume (play April 17th at Civic in San Jose, no dates after April 21st at Coachella)
Phosphorescent (no dates between June 22nd in Delaware and September 21st in Tennessee)
Phresher (no dates after May 10th in Miami)
PJ Morton (no dates after July 13th in Kentucky)
PLS&TY (no dates after June 27th in Michigan)
PNB Rock (no dates after May 10th in Miami)
Polo and Pan (no dates between June 28th in France and August 24th in France)
Polo G (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Princess Nokia (no dates between July 13th in Spain and September 7th in Germany)
Pusha T (no dates after July 21st in Chicago)
Quando Rondo (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
Queen Key (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
Rackz God (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Rae Sremmurd (no dates after July 19th in Indonesia)
Rakeem Miles (no dates after July 22nd in Delaware)
Rat Boy (no dates after July 28th in UK)
Razorbumps (no dates after April 21st at Coachella)
The Red Clay Strays (no dates after May 17th in Alabama)
The Red Pears (no dates after April 20th at Coachella)
Rich the Kid (play March 30th at the Warfield, no dates after July 13th in Germany)
Richy Samo (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
Rick Ross (no dates after May 10th in Miami)
Rico Nasty (no dates after June 2nd in Spain)
Rival Sons (play May 7th at The Fillmore, no dates after August 1st in Norway)
RL Grime (no dates after July 19th in Seattle)
Rob Markman (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Robb Banks (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
Rod Wave (no dates after May 10th in Miami)
Rosalia (no dates after July 11th in Spain)
Ross From Friends (play April 21st at The Independent in SF, no dates after July 21st in Germany)
Ruen Brothers (no dates after July 14th in Kentucky)
Ruston Kelly (no dates between August 4th in Iowa and November 11th in Dominican Replublic)
SAINt JHN (no dates between July 13th in Germany and August 22nd in UK)
Saweetie (no dates after July 26th in Nebraska)
serpentwithfeet (no dates between April 21st at Coachella and August 29th in UK)
Shallou (play April 26th at The Catalyst in Santa Cruz, no dates after July 21st in Seattle)
Shlump (play March 16th at the Regency Ballroom, no dates after August 4th in Calgary)
Shoreline Mafia (no dates after May 24th in Albuquerque)
Sidney Gish (no dates after June 14th in UK)
Siena Liggins (no dates after July 27th in Detroit)
Sir (no dates after April 21st at Coachella)
Ski Mask the Slump God (play April 30th at Bill Graham Civic, no dates after July 7th in UK)
Slenderbodies (no dates after May 19th in Houston)
Smino (play April 9th at the Fillmore and April 14th at the Regency Ballroom, no dates after May 9 in Boston)
SNBRN (play March 23rd at August Hall in SF, no dates after June 30 in Michigan)
Social House (play May 2nd at SAP Center as opener and May 3rd at Golden One Center as opener, no dates after July 13th in Utah)
SoDown (no dates after August 2nd in Washington)
Soja (play June 19th at Mountain Winery in Saratoga as opener, no dates after July 21st in North Carolina)
Sophie (no dates after June 8th in Portugal)
Soulja Boy (no dates after June 25th in Chicago)
Soulection (no dates after May 13th in Bakersfield)
Space Jam the Pilot (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Space Jesus (play April 5th at the UC Theater in Berkeley, no dates after July 22nd in Montreal)
Spaceghostpurrp (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Spazz Cardigan (no dates after July 12th in Kentucky)
Spencer Ludwig (no dates after June 28th in NY)
Splash Zanotti (no dates after May 10th in Miami)
Splurge (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
Steady Holiday (no dates after April 20th at Coachella)
$uicideboy$ (no dates after July 21st in France)
Sunsquabi (no dates after August 2nd in Colorado)
Suzi Wu (no dates after June 1st in NY)
Sweater Beats (no dates after June 21st in Delaware)
Sylvan Lacue (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
SZA (no dates after June 2nd in NY)
Tale of Us (play April 19th at 1015 Folsom club in SF, no dates between July 14th in Belgium and August 17th in the Netherlands)
Tara Brooks (no dates after April 21st at Coachella)
Tee Grizzley (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
ThouxanbanFauni (play March 29th at the Complex in Oakland, no dates after May 12th in Miami)
Thumpasaurus (no dates after June 27th in Michigan)
Tierra Whack (no dates after June 27th in Michigan)
Tiny Moving Parts (no dates after June 28th in Michigan)
Tokimonsta (no dates after July 18th in UK)
Tokyo Jetz (no dates after May 10th in Miami)
Tomasa Del Real (no dates after April 21st at Coachella)
Trampled by Turtles (play August 10th in Washington, not playing August 9th or 11th anywhere)
Trippee Redd (no dates after July 13th in Germany)
Tund3 (no dates after May 10th in Miami)
Turnover (play April 23rd at the Regency Ballroom, no dates after June 1st in Japan)
Two Friends (no dates after June 15th in Washington)
T.Y. (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
Ty Dolla $ign (no dates after June 1st in NY)
Ty Segall (no dates after April 21st at Coachella)
Tyga (no dates after July 12th in Germany)
Tyler Childers (no dates between August 4th in Oregon and August 24th in the Netherlands)
Unotheactivist (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Valee (no dates after July 19th in Chicago)
Vince Staples (play March 29th at Fox Theater in Oakland, no dates after July 7th in Ireland)
VHS Collection (no dates after June 23rd in Delaware)
Virgil Abloh (no dates after June 29th in Vegas)
The Voidz (no dates after July 13th in Spain)
Waax (no dates after July 19th in Seattle)
Waka Flocka Flame (no dates after May 18th in Montreal)
Walker & Royce (no dates after June 15th in Washington)
Warhol.ss (play March 29th at The Complex in Oakland, no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Whipped Cream (play August 9th or 10th in Montreal)
White Reaper (no dates between June 29th in Kentucky and August 23rd in UK)
Wifisfuneral (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Wiz Khalifa (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
The Wood Brothers (no dates between August 3rd in Iowa and August 16th in Montana)
X Ambassadors (no dates after July 6th in Canada)
Yaeji (no dates after July 13th in Spain)
YBN Cordae (no dates after May 26th in Minnesota)
YBS Skola (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Yella Beezy (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
YNW Melly (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Yoke Lore (play Bottlerock in May, no dates after June 22nd in Delaware)
Young Fathers (no dates after May 26th in Boston)
Young M.A. (no dates after May 10th in Miami)
Young Nudy (no dates after May 23rd in L.A.)
Young Thug (no dates after July 7th in France)
Youngboy Never Broke Again (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
Yung Baby Tate (play April 14-15th at the Catalyst in Santa Cruz as opener, no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Yung Bae (play April 17th at SJSU Events Center, no dates after August 2nd in Washington)
Yung Bans (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
Yung Bleu (no dates after May 10th in Miami)
Yung Simmie (no dates after May 12th in Miami)
Yungeen Ace (no dates after May 11th in Miami)
Ziggy Alberts (no dates after July 11th in Montreal)
Zoey Dollaz (no dates after May 10th in Miami)
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